Soul

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A gallon is not a liter.

I promise, I understand that. You hit at what I'm trying to communicate slightly later.

basics such as 1 being 1 or 2 being 2 dont change...

This is it. I'm not talking about systems of measurement. Not even a little. I'm talking about numbers. These basics are perceived, not invented by the human mind.

1 is 1 and 2 is 2 not because a soul. almoust every living thing can figure that out but maybe not name it, as I mentioned before and what you ignored because it challenged your point and you dont want to leave disneyland.

Correct. Even if we didn't perceive numbers, they would still exist. However, without a soul, we could not perceive them. And yes, almost every living thing can count, and while I did not address your kitty cat example, I did address the same topic to futilethewinds. All animals have a soul. However, there are abilities that they lack that we have. Therefore, there is a unique human soul.

I did not create the atom (duh), but the atom has numerical requirements in order for it to retain identity. These are not in our head. These are in reality.

aaaaaaaaaaand?! is there any point you were making with that?!

Yes. Quantity exists in reality, not in our head. Quantity also is not material.

Just curious: how old are you?

Rhythm is a kiddo because of how he acts, not how old he is. Anyway, I'm 21.

Okay. (There was an issue? Must have missed it.)

Caught me again! I'm just that regular ol' cultist hoping for you to fall into my trap!

Rule #1: Always assume a strawman about the bunch you are debating(!?) with.

Rule #2: Ignore all those that go against your arguments.

1. If you knew what a strawman was, you would know that isn't what happened. I made an argument for immaterials and only briefly talked about why option 2 doesn't work. I am leaving the rest of the thread to talk about option 2.

2. If I'm ignoring all those... then what does "all" actually mean? I don't actually think that means what you think it means.

ETA: As to the rest, you could try a mathematics college course. Blatant show of ignorance =/= proof of god.

Did you even read the title of the thread? I'm hoping to prove a soul, not God. Are we in the mathematics section? I'm not making calculations. Perhaps you should take a philosophy college course.