RE: Big Doings Down Under
June 30, 2013 at 2:59 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2013 at 3:01 am by Justtristo.)
(June 29, 2013 at 11:01 pm)Aractus Wrote: When Gillard knifed Rudd in '10, the ALP was just ahead of the Coalition in the opinion polls (two party preferred). The thing is that there was no great turnaround when they got to election, it was basically where it had been at the point when Rudd was toppled. What we've seen this time around is a swing back to the ALP now that Rudd's taken over - but I think people are smarter than this. By the time they get to the polls, they'll have realized that the leader makes no difference; or they'll have remembered why Rudd was overturned in the first place.
I remember reading reports in the press that many in ALP parliamentary party thought they could lose the 2010 federal election if Rudd had continued remaining leader. Plus Rudd's leadership style aggravated many in the caucus, because he did not lead like a Labor Party leader should (in their opinion). Any excuse how many weak, was enough for those caucus members aggravated by Rudd to topple him.
Although I believe if he had remained Labor leader the Labor party would have won a majority (although a reduced one) at the 2010 election.
Quote:I repeat what I said before, I find it disgraceful that caucus members ("faceless men") would vote out their own prime ministers like this. They're spineless, nobody knows what they really believe in or what they really stand for anymore, and dysfunction, chaos and factionalism is overrunning their political party. And then, we have the Green's leader Christine Milne come out and attack the government on their instability and credibility; yet she's supposed to be a partner with the ALP in government! Why can't the leader of the ALP - now Rudd - come out and make the same clear, bold and aggressive statements against the Greens? Why are they so afraid of them??
The Greens aren't in a formal coalition with the Labor party at a federal level. If they were there would be Green representatives in the cabinet (as in the Tasmanian state cabinet) for example. The agreement that Julia Gillard made with the Greens, was essentially the same type which was made with Windsor and Oakeshott. Essentially to pass supply bills and not vote for motions of non confidence in the government. Therefore it is perfectly acceptable for Christine Miline to attack the government in these areas.
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