(October 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm)Secularone Wrote:(October 9, 2009 at 9:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Again you fail to answer the question, so I will assume you have no answer to the logic.What logic? I haven't seen any logic. All I've seen is flim-flam.
That seems to be your excuse to dismiss without thought. Flim flam perhaps.
(October 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm)Secularone Wrote: All things that exist are ordered and all things that are ordered are a slave to that order. That would include your god.
Yep. I have no problem with part one. Part 2 assumes God could only have created this order. If God has created another order of chaos then it wouldn't apply, and is irrelevant. Not that I have issue with your use of the baiting term 'slavery'. In this sense it is meaningless.
(October 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm)Secularone Wrote: Unless you'd care to argue that He is chaos. In which case, He could not exist or function or create anything. For all creations are the product of an algorithm. And algorithms are ordered.
You're assuming the physics of this reality, which is of course fallacious.
(October 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm)Secularone Wrote: And of course, I'm expecting you to give me some kind of flim-flam answer that is designed to remove your god from critical scrutiny or accountability. What's new?
Nothing if you always prejudge an answer. There would be no new discoveries ifscience had taken this attitude.
