(July 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm)Lek Wrote: Evidence for an evolutionary process is obvious and plentiful, but of course, creating amino acids in a lab is far from creating a living creature. It also doesn't in any way rule out a creator. It may be true, but it's a lousy argument to use to try to deny the existence of God. By the way, I went to a catholic school for my first eight years and was taught evolution in science class. I guess if some kids are home schooled, they could have this kind of science hidden from them. But I believe they need to pass qualification testing in science to move on and graduate. I don't know of any schools that don't teach evolution.
I understand. At the same time though, if you literally see a clock's parts evolve into a clock one gear at a time through a process of trial and error-- and you had the finished product to refer to, and you had time capsules of the transitionary phases of past clock's progression into the complex machines that we use now (which we are still observing evolving to this day)--and the nuts and bolts and gears were following the same progression that you've been able to observe in already formed clocks--then would you still say that those gears and nuts and bolts wont eventually become a clock if they keep following the same pattern of formation based upon observed universal laws of physics??
(Bear with me if you please, I'm tired )
Lets say clocks represent a human body, kogs/gears/bolts represent the building blocks of the body, and the process of trial and error is evolution.
What's your opinion about the speciation proof I presented?
Lastly, I was in high school from 2001-2004. I remember a lot of hubub in the news about what to teach and not to teach in biology in Kansas schools. The only word I heard on evolution was that the courts mandated that that was the official version of things. To stay as far away out of controversy for fear of legal ramifications--the teacher got to the point that all we did in biology was cut open dead baby pigs and frogs and study mitosis and mitochondrial processes. Never heard a word on evolution or the fossil record. Genetics was condensed down to eye and hair color, genetic disease, and blood types. That's.. that's all I learned in biology.
I went on to Chemistry and physics from there. Admittedly I was private or homeschooled for all of middle school. But I have asked my friends from high school if they learned evolution in school before 9th grade and they said no. Anyone I know who hasn't been to college, have zero knowledge of evolution and are typically heavily biased against it.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.