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An argument against God
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RE: An argument against God
(September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(September 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm)Alex K Wrote: Well, there's at least a kernel of truth to that, in the following sense: If some being manifested itself doing things which - to us - seemed magical and supernatural, the rational first hypotheses to me would be to suspect either that
  • I had gone insane
  • Some kind of advanced intelligence is playing tricks on us
Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. People want a miracle or ask for a sign and then if by chance it happens they find a way to explain it away. That is the problem with relying on miracles.

Fortunately, there are two other routes by which one can come to knowledge of God: reasoning from common experience (think Aquinas) and personal revelation (gnosis).

How does this gnosis business even in principle provide any leverage against my reservations from above? Even if it were personally revealed to you, the rational position would still be to question your judgement and the reliability of this revelation, given the enormity of its nature. Concerning the reasoning from common experience, that may work to obtain knowledge about God under the assumption that it exists ('es a darn bastard), but nothing in the way of reliable and convincing evidence for existence in the first place. Unless I'm missing something major.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by downbeatplumb - September 29, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mudhammam - September 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 30, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: An argument against God - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Angrboda - September 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: An argument against God - by bennyboy - September 29, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Madness20 - September 30, 2014 at 6:45 am
RE: An argument against God - by Ben Davis - September 30, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against God - by John V - October 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Zidneya - October 14, 2014 at 1:29 am

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