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Genesis is not fact, there for Jesus is not necessary?
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RE: Genesis is not fact, there for Jesus is not necessary?
(March 4, 2015 at 3:37 pm)FiveSpotCharlie Wrote: Please forgive me if this has been covered. I did search, but didn't find anything that seemed to address this directly.

I'm having trouble with what to me seems like a very simple concept.

In it's simplest possible terms:
Evolution is a Fact, we evolved as a species, not from a single human.
Therefor, Genesis in the Bible, in particular Adam can't be fact.
Without Adam, there is no Original Sin.
Without Original Sin, there is no need for Jesus Sacrifice.
Jesus Death is THE pillar of Christianity.
Christianity is unfounded, and therefor false.

What am I missing? Why is this seeming simple progression not a total refutation of Christianity?

Again.. if this has indeed been covered, I apologize, and ask for a quick link.

Try this out as an alternative take on the issues in your post (for the sake of debate).

Assuming most right minded people buy into the concept of evolution, at some point in history there is one male we are all descended from (Most Recent Common Ancestor - MRCA), also there is a single female who is the MRCA of us all. So, while there is no Adam and Eve per se and these common ancestors are thousands of years apart it does seem that we are descended from one man and one woman.

This doesn't mean they were the only male and female alive in their times, just the male and female from which we are all descended, he is called Y-chromosomal Adam (50-60,000 years ago), she is called Mitochondrial Eve (150-200,000 years ago).

[Image: MtDNA-MRCA-generations-Evolution.svg]

Secondly, at some point in the very distant past there would have been a male/female pairing that gave rise to the mutations that became our ancestors and eventually Homo Sapiens, so while they were almost certainly not Homo Sapiens there will be some kind of convergence in our far-off distant past.

Which unravels the rest of your argument.

MM
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RE: Genesis is not fact, there for Jesus is not necessary? - by ManMachine - March 5, 2015 at 9:02 am

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