RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2015 at 7:59 pm by Alex K.)
(March 26, 2015 at 7:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:l - a - m - e(March 26, 2015 at 7:31 pm)Alex K Wrote: Good question, but if God exists, which I highly doubt, he indeed did a good job depriving us of a clearly written book. I mean, talk aboutProphets could have been sent with revelation and although it would not be written down for everyone to see, there would be oral reminders and wisdom, which was the way they "read" books in the past.
maybe issuing it not just in some backwaters behind the levante and at least 100000 years too late, but actually, you know, such that the majority of people actually get to see it?
God could have projected it into the sky in mile high letters 24/7 if it was so important.
Quote:I'd take God's wisdom allright. I just see no evidence that some old books do contain it - that's really the crucial part.Quote:No, we don't. What does that have to do with anything?
For wanting to know wisdom, why would we feel no need of God giving us that wisdom.
Quote:Plato would be proud of you. Unfortunately, that's not how it played out.Quote:There are a lot of psychopaths in leadership positions, did you know that?
And good leaders ought to lead people away from their path, and the best of humanity are the most fit to lead humanity and other leaders.
Quote:Well yeah, ok.Quote:Deism totally makes sense. Why does deism not make sense to you?
It makes only sense if you don't believe in the greatness of God, and his love, grace, mercy, and compassion.
Quote: If you believe he is bountiful and loving, you will believe he isn't trying us by evil just to abandon us and not help us, and not help us achieve honorable states, rally and unite upon the best of humans and help us work to establish justice and help us see wisdom and his light from guidance from him.That's quite some wishful thinking you've got going there. Your argument seems to be that you want a nice and helpful god and therefore deism is not an option.
Quote:Moreover, the best of his servants in Deism are basically no where to be found. They didn't lead humanity,Erm. Ok, where do I start. So... of course you can think of the US of A whatever you want, and it's got its impressive share of flaws, but it damn well led major parts of the world into fucking democracy, including being an
inspiration to the french revolution. And most of the crucial guys in designing it were Deists. I think that counts, and you don't know what you are talking about.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition