RE: turn to God and God turns to you
October 30, 2015 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Why is it that, as much as Yahweh wants a relationship with us, and as much as he values the idea that we need to do what he wants, it's US that has to seek him before he actually commits to us?Listen, the way is simple and narrow and easy. God made access to Him as easy as drinking water. Your faith is accounted for righteousness and not your life long obedience. God made the terms and it's simple. His mercy is rich but there is a ceiling and after the second coming, it's too late; just like when the doors of the ark were closed before the flood.
It's not that I want nothing to do with him. It's that I don't know conclusively that he exists, and the way he's portrayed in his holy book is not endearing. Gods having children is not a new thing there are many stories about people of divine birth, especially if you learn about Zeus. So someone being the son of a god isn't very impressive. Much less the idea that brutally murdering an innocent person somehow absolves a bad person of their sin. We have progressed enough as a culture that we don't believe blood has magical qualities, and that it's considered a breach of justice for a guilty person to scapegoat an innocent person.
It's not a simple thing. apparently the only way we can work this out conclusiely is if we die, or Jesus comes back in the second coming. In which case it's apparntly too late for some reason. which smells of a scam.
Jesus is the only way to God.
Even if your god does exist,
(To paraphrase TheRocketSurgeon)
I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
The Christian religion is immoral and I want no part of it.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
