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Making the case for Islam.
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Making the case for Islam.
Peace be upon you.

To know the true God to me is the primary purpose of life. To know it's true identity, it's light, it's greatness, is no doubt to me the purpose of my life here. That knowledge if it's genuine knowledge would imply action, as it's only through action one can increase in their knowledge of the cosmic balance and it's source in the universe.

I think knowledge of God can be divided into the following:

1. Mathematical knowledge of his Greatness (the Oneness of God is a mathematical principle).

2. Knowledge regarding qualities of God as in his qualitative attributes.

3. Knowledge regarding God's way and design out of a result of those qualities.

4. Knowledge of God's will as in his commands and suggestions for us humans.

These all seem linked, and it seems the mathematical knowledge and our sincerity to it, is contingent on our sincerity to the other three. That is the knowledge that we been bestowed about the mathematical principle, will become dull, if we are insincere to the other three. At the same time, if we are sincere to it, the other three will become manifest to. That is they co-exist with each other. 

The mathematical principle, is that there is an ultimate truth, reality, existence, that combines all possible life, existence. It so happens that this mathematical principle is mixed with acknowledging that it unites all praise, and greatness. That is it is utmost greatness and praise.

I am calling it mathematical in so far as it's a knowledge that relates with magnitude of it's existence and greatness. Here we know it's not only without limit, but is such that it unites all possible levels of existence, and beyond. Those words itself don't do it justice, but it's the knowledge that it is the highest and greatest, such that it's not possible to be greater or higher, and is such that it cannot be imagined or comprehended. 

And it's great such that all that can be imagined of greatness, it surely has it. And it's a mathematical principle in so far it's existence is not a divided essence. It's an essence that is a single unity without division, such that it's sheer perfection and sheer existence, without parts or components or multiplicity in it's being.

For if it had multiplicity, each of those attributes would them in themselves not be the ultimate reality and hence fall short of ultimate perfection. 

The only thing as far as we go to deny all gods besides the true God as far as mathematical principle goes, for finding the true religion, this is only going to be a primary ingredient.  But it does nothing to show aside from that what the true religion is if there is more then one religion with this principle emphasized nor is it sufficient in itself to point to there being a religion.

For that we have to look towards "God's Names" in so far as they relate to qualities. The question is how do we do this in non-circular way?

For example, stating he is compassionate and merciful because Quran says so, and that he sent the Quran because he is compassionate and merciful is circular reasoning.

The way to escape that is to look towards the signs of God within ourselves. That is the starting point. 

The praise belongs or is towards God. All praise is towards God. What we recognize of praise is somehow connected to his essence. Not only that, but we know it morphs into something higher, the higher praise is, the more it unites what is below it, and holds it a more great. 

We know even there exists some humans who can hold praise in a way that far exceeds and is far more exalted then the general masses.

We know praise morphs into something higher, and that is of stages. But what is below in praise must surely be found in what is higher in praise, but not the other way. That is there exists praise missing from us and God exists both in presence and in our absence.

That is the signs of God in us is such that he is present with us, but also beyond and far beyond us, he exists both in our presence and in our absense.

This complicates the issue somewhat in that, sometimes, we cannot recognize all of God's will and his way, simply by looking within ourselves. But at the same, time, we can recognize necessary qualities of God and know some of his way and his path, through looking at the praise with us.

And the praise with us is of two types. False and true. There exists a falsehood and a truth with us, a true praise which is our true existence, and a false praise and false identity, which is a falsehood and a darkness that has emerged in us from our own injustice. 

That further complicates things as well. As how do we come to recognize true praise from a false perception of praise? 

These questions are important. The true religion if it exists can come about to be known through reason. Reason is also what makes us know right when we know right from wrong, and wrong from when we know wrong from right.

It's the inner guide, while the true religion would seek to facilitate it, and bring about it from it's depth of it's ignorance to the height of it's comprehension and capability.

When I talk about reason this way, I do not mean we all require high IQs to come about this level. But I also do believe a type of intelligence is acquired through the true religion that cannot be acquired without it.

It's a wisdom, a understanding, a perception of higher truths.
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Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by brewer - June 5, 2016 at 3:17 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by madog - June 5, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 6:11 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Aoi Magi - June 5, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 5, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 5, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:14 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:27 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 11:33 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 6, 2016 at 6:53 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2016 at 12:20 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 6, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 6, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 6, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 6, 2016 at 6:41 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by GUBU - June 10, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 10, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by GUBU - June 10, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 10, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by GUBU - June 11, 2016 at 5:18 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 6, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 9, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by SofaKingHigh - June 9, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 9, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 9, 2016 at 9:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 10, 2016 at 2:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ignoramus - June 10, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 10, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 11, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 11, 2016 at 12:34 pm

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