(September 20, 2019 at 12:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(September 20, 2019 at 12:02 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: When in modern America have independent voters accomplished anything beside stealing votes from one candidate or another?
So what's your point about swing and independent voters being tired of Trump?
He is way down in the polls, even FOX, and that says something.
The rust belt and swing voters prior to his running did not know what NYC always knew. Most who support him only knew he was a rich guy who didn't talk like a rich guy, and love him because he wasn't "politically correct". But now that he isn't simply a reality TV star selling "get rich utopias", they are seeing that he isn't the shiny object they thought he was.
Actually, he is slightly ahead of where Obama was at this point eight years ago.
He lost the popular vote by about 3 000 000 and stell managed to get elected. I don't expect there's going to be enough movement on this particular scandal to suppose 2020 will be much different.
Based on his known, admitted corruption, I think that - at this point - Trump could beat a box of kittens to death on the South Lawn of the White House in full view of the press and still get re-elected.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson