Christians: A Question

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(4th January 2012 09:35)Cinjin Wrote:  And yet you said yourself, that many of us on these forums are going to burn in hell.

What!?!?

Wake up Cin I think you're dreaming again.

(4th January 2012 14:03)Shell B Wrote:  *sigh* So, it was a sacrifice. The first one implies that it was a willing sacrifice. The second option says it was not a sacrifice at all because he was willing. Hope that clears things up.

In what reality do you work this out?! Of course it was a willing sacrifice. Jesus knew that it was going to happen and willingly put himself in the line of fire to fully accept his destiny ....is the biblical story.

Gods plan was to make the perfect sacrifice so that people could shed their limiting guilt and be close to God. Like God, & fully realised human beings.

Never ever is God unwilling in this. It's not debateable. It's something literally and clearly stated. For any person claiming to follow the biblical Christ this is accepted.

(4th January 2012 14:03)Shell B Wrote:  The first option does not say it was not willing. Good grief. I should never have tried for a straight answer from Christians. No offense, but you guys are a bunch of smoke talkers.

Yeah and that is never Christian.

Option one is most correct... apart from that glaring flaw. Option two says it wasn't a sacrifice. Your statements are contradictory, and not the belief that you are trying to understand. The confusion is all yours.

The sacrifice is the crux (sic) of the issue. The willingness is inseperable. HTH