(January 11, 2012 at 6:08 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: It's not about logic at this point. It is about the notion that people who consider themselves philosophers will not completely rule out that santa does might exist, which is barmy. There is zero chance of the santa as he is defined in popular culture existing. Why can't we just come out and say it?
The point is, you haven't proved that there is zero chance of him existing. There are (to my knowledge) no logical contradictions in the standard description of Santa Claus that prevent him from existing. We can argue with absolutely certainty (and knowledge) that there are no square circles, since the existence of a square circle is logically impossible.
Find a logical contradiction surrounding Santa and I'll admit you are correct.
Oh, and things that fly in the face of science aren't logical contradictions, due to the fact that science is built upon the possibility of being completely wrong about everything (falsification).