Skeptics I no longer have any respect for.

[NoMoreFaith]

Yes, it is. You took my comment out of context. I was replying to precisely what was posted by Raph.

I apologise if that seemed to be the case.

Perhaps I should quote the whole post there, you responded to

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"Separating church and education makes any religious teachings entirely optional, it makes it a choice in every sense of the word."

It does no such thing. Separating it from public schools ensures that the government has nothing to do with religious teachings. If parents were not allowed to send their kids to private religious schools, they would just teach their children their religions at church and at home.

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My thoughts were that that is exactly where it belongs, and not given through the education system permeating several subjects, and deliberate falsehoods.

You aren't putting them at any positive or negative disadvantage to any other person by rights of their deeply held belief.

[quote='Shell B']There is the rub. I don't have to. It can be a negative or a positive thing. Either way, it is a constitutionally held right. The government has absolutely no say in whether a private school teaches faith or not and with good reason. If you want to start combining church and state, you're going to have to be okay with all combinations of church and state.

*Sigh* That may well be, but it doesn't make it right that a child can be forced into education that favours a biased point of view, and taught vicious lies as fact to warn them against apostasy.

Education should be based upon the teaching of known fact, and the imparting of knowledge. Where knowledge is subjective, then opposing views should be considered. If this is unconstitutional, sue me, I wasn't stating opinion on the legal status, more my opinion on how it should be.

Yes. It does imho. Unless the logic here is that if you tell anybody they cannot do something it is therefore intolerant.

No, the logic here is that telling people that they cannot raise their children according to their beliefs is intolerant. If you are going to say you have to raise your children according to our lack of belief, you have spit in the face of tolerance.

Did anyone propose that? There was in response to the right to send to a private school.
It is a difference between intolerance on the right to send to a private school that proposes a world view and no others, and the intolerance to bring children up as you see fit as a parent.

Nobody suggested the latter. We suggested the former. You're extrapolating to a ban on the whole world view.

Private schools promote the division and segregation of groups based purely on theological opinion. I can't agree with that.
People can have their theological opinions, and force them on their child, that's their parental right (although in some cases its tantamount to intellectual child abuse to do so, but that's a different discussion).

However, it does not serve for social cohesion to promote those divisions by physically removing whole sections of society from even having contact with someone who might think differently.

It seems the following points hinge on whether Private schools are a good or bad thing. I think they are 'bad' for the above reasons, however, you feel that you should defend their right to do so.

Should people have the right to send to a private school? I really don't think it should be an option personally.
Education should be governed centrally with the emphasis on the imparting of knowledge and facts as I said. Teach facts where we have strong evidence, teach subjective knowledge to include other subjective knowledges. It helps society function.

Separate children based on opinion and you breed intolerance.

Its idealism I know, :\