A Christian group showed up at the Chigaco Gay Pride...

[CliveStaples]

RW has already answered this but I'm not sure you get his point. Do you see that a parade that not only allows a downtrodden group to affirm their human rights but also allows those not in that group to affirm their support, is different than a parade to condemn that group and to send the message yet again that gays deserve their second class status? These are not equal positions and that isn't only because I happen to agree with the former and not the latter.

...huh? How does saying "I think you're wrong about sexual values" mean "and so therefore you're a second-class citizen"??

I don't think homosexuals (male or female) deserve second class status. I hate the very notion of classes in society. I just don't think that taking their argument seriously but disagreeing with their conclusion somehow renders them into second-class citizens.

You're saying that only the pro-homosexual sex side gets to speak. Yes, they've suffered. Yes, they're being discriminated against even today. But that doesn't mean that their arguments regarding sexual values should be privileged and not subject to dissent.

Again, incredibly ironic that you guys are pretending to be committed to tolerance.

Are you arguing in the abstract or would you yourself actually like to participate in a parade to celebrate discrimination, bigotry and your right to feel okay about being a hater?

I wouldn't personally attend such a rally, because I don't value discrimination, bigotry, or "being a hater" (unless this is the hip-hop sense of "hater" meaning "someone who disagrees or opposes").

I might actually attend a parade to celebrate monogamy (regardless of sexual orientation). I might actually attend a parade to celebrate abstinence until marriage (regardless of sexual orientation). I might actually attend a parade to celebrate our collective liberty to have and express whatever the f**k opinion we have about a guy doing a guy or a guy doing a girl or a girl doing a toaster or whatever.

But mostly I don't give two sh*ts about what consenting adults do behind closed doors, because there are far greater wrongs going on in the world that deserve to be protested that should be prioritized above celebrating the fact that you like dudes or chicks or that you don't like dudes who like dudes or whatever.

The only thing more retarded than having that discussion instead of talking about genocide or generating wealth in the third world or helping the economy recover...is only letting one side of the discussion have its say.