The giant quote blocks seem to be getting long, so I'll just do it this way:
"The bible says this is not an evidence issue but a heart issue with the unbeliever. That He has given sufficient evidence to everyone, but those who deny He exists are suppressing the truth due to unrighteousness. That it seems like a logical problem on the surface, but underneath it is a rejection of Gods authority because of sin."
I trust you won't think that was taken out of context of your reply.
So if you believe faith to be an heart issue and not one of rational evidence, what is the point of getting into discussions of this sort? Many christians believe that people only come to Jesus through the witness of the holy spirit, that only once the person has opened themselves up enough can the holy spirit move them.
So what's your endgame then, with discussions like this? Just spray enough verses and christian ideas at someone until they have a crack in their spiritual shell big enough for the holy spirit to get through?
"The bible says this is not an evidence issue but a heart issue with the unbeliever. That He has given sufficient evidence to everyone, but those who deny He exists are suppressing the truth due to unrighteousness. That it seems like a logical problem on the surface, but underneath it is a rejection of Gods authority because of sin."
I trust you won't think that was taken out of context of your reply.
So if you believe faith to be an heart issue and not one of rational evidence, what is the point of getting into discussions of this sort? Many christians believe that people only come to Jesus through the witness of the holy spirit, that only once the person has opened themselves up enough can the holy spirit move them.
So what's your endgame then, with discussions like this? Just spray enough verses and christian ideas at someone until they have a crack in their spiritual shell big enough for the holy spirit to get through?