Hello atheistforum

[brotherlylove]

I have been trying to respond to your post, but it seems that everytime I try to quote it, my computer crashes. So here is my response to your question about seeing a pattern in my life.

The only pattern was constant, willful self-destruction along with a refusal to take responsibility for my actions that were worsening my problem. I was my own worst enemy, and once I realized this to be true, I was able to change and bring stability to my life. No god needed. I just needed to take control of my life. This revelation came after hitting rock bottom for the third time in my life, and that would make god a sadistic animal if that's how he wanted to send me a message.

Well, think about it this way. If someone like me approaches you and tells you that Jesus loves you, it doesn't sound like you're hearing that. If God gave you a supernatural experience, you would probably dismiss it as a mental artifact. I know this because I have spoken to more than a few atheists who were given out of body experiences but still deny they have a spirit. So perhaps God in His mercy showed you how tenuous our control really is. That rock bottom may only be one bad afternoon away. That He is in control, and thus our control is ultimately illusionary. It sounds like you got the message, since you were at one point looking for Him.

And no, I didn't do what the bile said as I dismissed it as mere superstition at a young age. Then again, I didn't do what the Koran said either.

Well, I think that if you want to consider the question of whether God is knowable, you would have to ask yourself if He has in fact already communicated with planet Earth. Whether He has sent any representitives, or in the case of Jesus, actually showed up personally. Surely, that would bear investigating if you wanted to logically evaluate the matter, don't you think?

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Great .... another douche bag christian with the same old tired bull shit lines, "I'm not trying to preach. I'm just spreading good will and enlightening the heathens about how awesome god REALLY is!" Jesus-tapdancing-christ, it gets so old.

Hey Cinjin According to your biography, you are an ex-christian, now a deist. Do you feel the same way towards all Christians now that you no longer believe? Where do your deist beliefs come from?

Meanwhile they get off on making judgements about everyone and everything from their little isolated tower of pompous self-righteousness.

I'm no ones judge, but apparently you think that you are mine?

A GUARANTEE you, that this dime-a-dozen dick head would NEVER talk to us on the street corner the way he's spouting off in these forums.

I fellow the greatest commandments, which include to love your neighbor as yourself. I treat everyone the same way, with as much love and compassion as I have to give. So there is no difference in how I act here, or there, or anywhere.