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Reverse Russell's Paradox
21st February 2012, 01:23 (This post was last modified: 21st February 2012 02:42 by Categories+Sheaves.)
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RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox
(20th February 2012 05:48)AthiestAtheist Wrote:  
(19th February 2012 19:34)LastPoet Wrote:  On the other hand you proposed the reversal and didn't said anything worth about it, so what is it that you are saying? Do you even know what a paradox is?

I think you have it backwards there.

To be fair, there isn't much to say about the original post. Even ZFC insists that for every set S, the powerset P(S), namely the set of all subsets of S (including S itself) exists. A statement that begins with 'Can the set that cannot be contained...' holds as much water as a statement that begins with 'Can the square with five sides....'

It doesn't matter what absurd things we might conclude once we assume there exists a square with five sides: by using proof-by-contradiction (or if you're a fan of xkcd, thanks to the principle of explosion) we're able to prove everything. Until we have a reason to accept the existence of a 'set that cannot be contained,' we don't have a paradox. The real work is in showing that there is a set that cannot be contained, or that we can produce one via some agreed-upon axioms.

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Messages In This Thread
Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 16th February 2012, 05:16
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - LastPoet - 16th February 2012, 15:51
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 17th February 2012, 02:44
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - LastPoet - 19th February 2012, 19:34
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 20th February 2012, 05:48
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - Categories+Sheaves - 21st February 2012 01:23
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 21st February 2012, 04:55
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - Minimalist - 17th February 2012, 03:16
Reverse Russell's Paradox - Zen Badger - 17th February 2012, 09:20
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 18th February 2012, 19:12
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - Zen Badger - 20th February 2012, 13:47
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - Tiberius - 18th February 2012, 19:54
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - Minimalist - 18th February 2012, 21:17
RE: Reverse Russell's Paradox - AthiestAtheist - 22nd February 2012, 02:40



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