RE: More Kony Shit
April 3, 2012 at 3:34 am
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2012 at 3:38 am by Tempus.)
(April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm)LukeMC Wrote: The reason I find the objections of the unconverted to be particularly irritating is
Have a look at my post on page 5 - none of my criticisms include that. In fact, I think politicians WILL act under public pressure, which is precisely why I'm concerned. Politicians are (supposed to be) representives of the people, so it is expected they do what the public wants, but if they're caving under the pressure of an ignorant population that's not going to help anyone.
My primary concern with Kony 2012 isn't particularly specific to the campaign (although I also have secondary specific concerns). A concise way of putting my primary concern could be stated like this:
- Organisation X makes misleading and simplified but nonetheless persuasive argument for cause Y
- The general public, ignorant in regards to much of the subject of cause Y then heavily supports it
- Politicians, now under the weight of public pressure and close to presidential elections, support cause Y to maintain their own support and not look callous.
(April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm)LukeMC Wrote: All you have to do to find out what the claimants are actually claiming is to invest a little extra time in investigating the content behind their movement. Go to their website and see for yourself before you set up a strawman to debunk.
I did. I didn't stop at their website though, I did other research on central African history, foreign aid in africa, Joseph Kony and the LRA, IC and their affiliates, as well as refreshers on the techniques used in advertising, psychology and sociology (as they relate to persuading people). Since this research took place over the span of a week I'm not suggesting it's anything more than a crash course, but it's better than simply visiting the website of the people promoting the cause. It'd be like saying "people say McDonald's is unhealthy, but if they just visited their website they'd see this argument has been dealt with". To be clear I'm only using that example to illustrate the mistaken reasoning, I'm not equating McDonald's with IC.
(April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm)LukeMC Wrote: see for yourself before you set up a strawman to debunk.
There's strawman arguments on both sides. You're close to making one by seeming to assume that all critiques spout the same "iT's a SCAM guyz Kody isnt even in uganda anymore lol". Some people actually did do research and still have issues with it. Instead of shouting down, making facetious remarks or outright ignoring actual criticisms maybe some of the supporters might address the actual issues instead of pretending we all think nobody knows Kony isn't in Uganda. That last sentence isn't personally directed toward you, LukeMC - it's more a general response to the replies I've seen by supporters to critics.