(September 25, 2012 at 10:49 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: and there i find it strange, that here in europe the most religious, conservative, uneducated, unprogressive and poorest countries are those with a catholic population
Meh. Consider that every religion and even every denomination can be practiced differently in different countries. People always see what they want to in their god. To liberal Christians, Jesus was the kind rebel who cared for the poor. To conservative Christians, Jesus was a stern authoritarian who tells us to get right with his father. Why shouldn't denominations and sects be subject to modification by the local followers, just as a religion itself might be?
Quote:and catholic history such as spain, italy, portugal, poland and austria - the less influence rome has the better off that country is - one can see especialy in the cases of austria and poland how the decline of catholic influence has lead to those nations success -You see the same thing in America. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the terms "red" and "blue" as it applies to American politics and culture. You see these colors on our election maps every four years.
"Red" or "red states" refers to areas of America, mostly the south or central western states. These are conservative areas, deeply religious, filled with myopic ignorant people chanting "USA! USA!" or "We're #1" even though they've likely never seen any other country. (how ironic that you might associate the color red with the far left). These are the states in our "Bible Belt".
"Blue" or "blue states" refers to more progressive, less religious areas of the country. Not surprisingly, these less religious areas are not only more educated but have a higher standard of living, fewer social problems, lower crime rates, etc.
Quote:most strange of all the netherlands - the netherlands are strange - because they use to be a realy radical fundermentalist calvinist state - and now they have legal prostetution, pot and are in the top ten of the most atheist population.Here's hoping the Muslims don't ruin that paradise.
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