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Hare Krishna
RE: Hare Krishna
Aki, try to see it this way. (I can only speak for myself on this matter, but I know that a lot of the people here agree with me.)

As of this moment, it doesn't really matter if we can prove or disprove gods. I don't know your god (I will read into it, pinky promise), but I know many others. And even if I was proven one day that I was wrong, I would still not worship. That's what bugs me about most religions, the worshiping part of it.
Most gods are declared to be perfect, to be omniscient, infallible and creators of this realm. We humans are always described as inferior and incomplete. But why should an inferior being automatically bend one knee and be grateful to a deity, which has created such an imperfect world and though it seems interested in the most odd parts of human life, it still allows everything from parasites to war waged in its name. No, I have to go with the deists on this one, if indeed such a being exists, it cares zilch about us.

My stance is this, my field of expertise lies in biology and chemistry and I understand both fields well (I wish I could say the same about physics, though). All I've presented to you here is true and real, the fruit of decades of study and research. What I unfortunately can't do is convey my understanding and knowledge to you in order to be able to interpret it. Or I will ask again, how much of the natural sciences do you know, am I assuming too much and underestimating you? Because to me it seems that your snarky retorts and sarcastic approach points to ignorance.

As for the metaphysical phenomena you think science can't prove/create, you're right. Today we don't know. But there's two paths in front of us, the first being that you're wrong an e.g. a soul does not exist, the other one being that we have to be patient and wait for the answers after research is completed. I've never seen any practical reason for a soul, I am the sum of my DNA and my environment. To me the souls is a concept created by religious leaders in order to ensure fear in their followers in order to have control, fooling people to think that they need an eternal piece to enter heave or to be reborn again. Well, I know that are constantly being 'reborn' everyday as our former atoms and molecules leave us and new ones replace them, e.g. my liver is not quite the same it was seven years ago.

Finally, you are well within your rights to be religious and you may worship any god you see fit. But why Krishna and not Allah, Zeus, Ilmatar or Loki?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 7:38 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Faith No More - October 5, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 5, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by jonb - October 5, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by KichigaiNeko - October 5, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 5, 2012 at 8:50 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 5, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Simon Moon - October 5, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Napoléon - October 5, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by IATIA - October 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by IATIA - October 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 5, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tino - October 6, 2012 at 4:24 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tino - October 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 5, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 5, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 5, 2012 at 2:21 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Simon Moon - October 5, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by downbeatplumb - October 6, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Nine - October 5, 2012 at 1:32 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Hovik - October 5, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 3:09 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 5, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 5, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Simon Moon - October 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by IATIA - October 5, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 5, 2012 at 11:50 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Simon Moon - October 6, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Nine - October 6, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Nine - October 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 8, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 8, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Simon Moon - October 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 11:25 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 6, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 1:11 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 6, 2012 at 1:14 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 7, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 6, 2012 at 8:31 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tino - October 6, 2012 at 5:14 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 5:21 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tino - October 6, 2012 at 5:32 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 5:50 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 8:36 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 10:26 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 6, 2012 at 5:58 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tiberius - October 6, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 6, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 6, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 11:58 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Shell B - October 7, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 1:12 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 3:32 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 7, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 7, 2012 at 3:01 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 8, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Tino - October 7, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 6:41 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Nine - October 8, 2012 at 7:16 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Nine - October 8, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 8:04 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 8:36 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 8, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Mister Agenda - October 8, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 6, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 7, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 5:21 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 7, 2012 at 5:27 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 7, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 7, 2012 at 5:55 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 7, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 7, 2012 at 5:46 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 7, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Doubting_Thomas - October 7, 2012 at 3:59 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 6:14 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 8:21 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darwinian - October 8, 2012 at 10:27 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 8, 2012 at 10:50 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 8, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 11:29 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 11:01 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 8, 2012 at 11:32 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 8, 2012 at 11:31 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 11:47 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by LastPoet - October 8, 2012 at 12:00 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Annik - October 8, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 8, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:40 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Whateverist - October 8, 2012 at 3:47 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 9, 2012 at 10:28 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 3:37 pm
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Faith No More - October 8, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Minimalist - October 8, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 8, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Minimalist - October 8, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 9, 2012 at 8:55 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by KichigaiNeko - October 9, 2012 at 9:02 am
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RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 9, 2012 at 10:56 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by downbeatplumb - October 9, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Cyberman - October 9, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Minimalist - October 9, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 9, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 9, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by The Grand Nudger - October 9, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by downbeatplumb - October 9, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Kayenneh - October 9, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Minimalist - October 9, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Hare Krishna - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 10, 2012 at 4:33 am
RE: Hare Krishna - by Angrboda - October 10, 2012 at 4:59 am
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