RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 11:41 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2013 at 11:42 am by orogenicman.)
(June 15, 2013 at 5:28 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 15, 2013 at 2:42 am)orogenicman Wrote: In what alternate reality is rape and murder of women and children considered to be justice?
Ooh... I see you changed the words. On this new and unrelated topic I must agree with you.
Erm, what? What words did I change?
Quote:It's a complex subject I think. Perhaps not though.
If you start to think about a god and how that might work, you are forced to make certain conclusions.
I think the starting point is creation/ first cause, and a creator god. To create, god has to be a positive force. A negative force cannot create. A god cannot be created or it is not god. So a god must be timeless. A positive, originating force has to also be good, as good entails this.
And so on.
Electrons have a negative charge, and thus are a negative force. And yet they are used to create many things, including the words you see on your computer monitor.
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- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero