RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 18, 2013 at 5:43 pm
(June 18, 2013 at 5:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:But (according to someone like you) it was morally justified at the time, and the justification is typically something along the lines of "because God willed it".(June 18, 2013 at 2:40 pm)orogenicman Wrote: There is a simple solution to this dilemma. Just admit that you believe that killing the women and children of your enemies is morally justified, and that taking those women not killed by such action as wives is also morally justified. If you do believe it, then you have given me evidence in support of my thesis that the Bible is a textbook for eliciting such atrocities. If you don't believe that that behavior is morally justified, then you must entertain the notion that such behavior rises to the level of murder and rape. Simply saying that it is god's will isn't going to do it. Jim Jones said the same thing, and nearly 1,000 people took their own lives as a result.
If Jim Jone's followers had read the Bible they would not have met such a fate.
The killing of my enemies is not morally justified, I have not the moral authority to do such a thing, I can not judge my enemy and actually Christ calls me to love my enemies. He also says to feed and cloth my enemy if I find them hungry and cloth them if I find them naked. I will say this one more time, see if it will get through your thick skull. You are trying to drag the OT into the NT and that want work. God was establishing His people to bring in the Christ in the future, He established them (much as the church today), since then Christ came and God set up His church through the Gentiles to carry on the mission of Christ. There is no more need for the same judgement on people today and just to remind you it was not murder nor rape.
You then go on to claim that the rules have changed and God could not / would not will such a thing today, but if the rules have changed once already, who is to say they can't change again?
If God told you, "Look, new set of rules to go by", or even "Do this thing for me", are you going to start quoting scripture to him, and explaining to him the ministry of Jesus?
