If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?

[Mystical]

No, I figured god knew what was best and therefore I couldn't say I knew he was wrong. I gave him all the authority in my life .

We are talking about the same thing we did months ago when you told me I had perverted your beliefs through being too selfless. Giving everything you have to someone else in the name of god beCause they need it, is not selfless? What's your definition of selfless? Dying for you? Or is it just limited to dying for yet more intangible sins that you were inherited by being born?

I can be an atheist and still know what its like to go hungry or to not have proper shoes. And I can still feel compassion for those whom are going through that same thing. I can even extend that compassion to people who have experienced worse than me, and for those who have had it better than me. Cuz I'm human.

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We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God, and that they only constitute the Divine rule of Christian faith and practice.

We believe that there is only one God, who is infinitely perfect, the Creator, Preserver, and Governor of all things, and who is the only proper object of religious worship.

We believe that there are three persons in the Godhead - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.

We believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the Divine and human natures are united, so that He is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.We believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocence, but by their disobedience, they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall, all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.

We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has by His suffering and death made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.

We believe that repentance toward God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and regeneration by the Holy Spirit are necessary to salvation.

We believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believeth hath the witness in himself.

We believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.We believe that it is the privilege of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that their whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.We believe in the immortality of the soul, the resurrection of the body, in the general judgment at the end of the world, in the eternal happiness of the righteous, and in the endless punishment of the wicked.

I had to reread that first one a few times. I think it translates to the bible being fallible and that you only use it as a roadmap on how to live your life? That's why I have no qualms with you fr0d0.

So you do believe in the endless punishment of the wicked. I bet you think the punishment fits the crime, then? If so, what bible verses do you refer to for such reasoning (if that's your reasoning)?

See as a Christian I believed the bible was the living word of god. Meaning I could open it up and god could speak to my heart through it. I treated the bible like it was a piece of god. I also believed the bible was the infallible word of god because it says that it is.