RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 6, 2013 at 8:08 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2013 at 8:32 pm by Mystical.)
I hate no one. I hate what people do. I don't actually hate them for doing it. I'm even fine with there being no punishing recompense in an afterlife, too. How am I a hater, exactly? You reap what you sow, right? I reap love.
What's that saying?
"Only a sith deals in absolutes".
If I'm not for god I'm against him. Ronedrrr even said it word for word, "if they're not for us they're against us!"
Its that fear of someone being against what you stand for that leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. And hatred leads to the dark side, right?
I beg the question again, why must I go to hell for disobeying so that others can go to heaven for ob eying? What do you mean by "Love is life, hate is death"?
Also your quote about the logicality of trust does not compute. Can you rephrase for me?
If god is god , why does he require such a sacrifice to himself? Why not just absolve mankind for doing what he created them to do? The bible has a story about Job where he lets satan test Job with everything but his life. Why was there a bet in the first place on when/if Job would break, if god knows what will happen? That would mean he didn't know what would happen. If he doesn't know what will happen then maybe he doesn't know everything. Wouldnt the creator of everything, know everything? If not, then why would he say he is the alpha and the omega? Mind you I don't require answers to these questions, I'd appreciate your thoughts though.
Well, anti christ.
Just sayin
What's that saying?
"Only a sith deals in absolutes".
If I'm not for god I'm against him. Ronedrrr even said it word for word, "if they're not for us they're against us!"
Its that fear of someone being against what you stand for that leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. And hatred leads to the dark side, right?
I beg the question again, why must I go to hell for disobeying so that others can go to heaven for ob eying? What do you mean by "Love is life, hate is death"?
Also your quote about the logicality of trust does not compute. Can you rephrase for me?
fr0d0 Wrote:The sacrifice is to God on man's behalf.
If god is god , why does he require such a sacrifice to himself? Why not just absolve mankind for doing what he created them to do? The bible has a story about Job where he lets satan test Job with everything but his life. Why was there a bet in the first place on when/if Job would break, if god knows what will happen? That would mean he didn't know what would happen. If he doesn't know what will happen then maybe he doesn't know everything. Wouldnt the creator of everything, know everything? If not, then why would he say he is the alpha and the omega? Mind you I don't require answers to these questions, I'd appreciate your thoughts though.
(July 6, 2013 at 7:33 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: So if someone comes forth claiming to be God's representative, and can perform 'miracles', you will welcome him with open arms?
fr0d0 Wrote:If he satisfies testing of course!
Miracles and saint hood are over rated
Well, anti christ.
Just sayin
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.