(November 24, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 24, 2013 at 5:20 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Cinjin called it in the first sentence of the OP.Then maybe you and cinny don't know what no true Scotsmen really is.
Because asking if someone really believes in what they teach, has nothing to do with the fallacy.
Pentecostals especially, do not have to have much if any formal training, they just need to be dynamic speakers, and a group of people willing to shake rattle and roll on Sunday mornings. If they get into it even with a weak faith, they can quickly prop themselves up with money, and adoration from the church. But, once that goes away so does their faith and confidence. They see their success as a measure of the power of God. If they make it God is real if they don't none of it is real. Never mind the fact that God may not want to support a ministry like the one they are selling. This can all be boiled down to simple pride. Pride is an identifiable quantifiable sin, and therefore disqualifies this condition as a 'no true Scotsmen' fallacy.
You are the one who does not understand the 'no true christian' fallacy.
Either a true Xtian is anyone who claims to be one, or trying to pin down a definition is like trying to nail jello to a tree.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.