(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote:For the umpteenth time, NDEs are not DEs... bring me someone who's actually dead and then coming back to tell what happened... and then repeat for everyone who dies.... once we get a consistent flow of accounts about the after-life, then I, who have never died, will accept that there may be something there...(December 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I assume someone must have done that... or else how would you know about it?!
NDE's.
Thousand of them.
Unfortunately, for your fantasy world, this is not the case, is it?
Even NDEs differ wildly in detail... and most people who do get that close to death don't experience anything... so I must wave those NDEs aside as some brain trickery.
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote:Real evidence that consciousness does not survive the body's death?(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.
Quote:Perhaps I need to reiterate that the analogy is flawed!
As far as you can not rebut it with real evidence it is not flawed.
You're really asking for this?
My grandfather died some 15 years ago. After that, he hasn't provided me nor my mother, nor my grandmother with any insight into the afterlife... it's like his consciousness, his personality, his memories, were gone the moment his body died... multiply this by all the people who have ever lived and died on this planet... There's your evidence!