It just never ceases to astound me that Christians have to be told that atheists (and other free thinkers) don't believe the Bible or other sources fanciful Christian folklore about Jesus and the "early Church". Even some of the more polished and apparently educated apologists seem to think that "would they have died for a lie" or "the Bible says..." is a slam-dunk argument. I can only imagine the confused looks on their faces when they read the reply posts that their arguments are unconvincing.
I mean, seriously, why do you think we're non-believers?
Do you think we just have never heard of Jesus? Do you think we don't already know what the story is? Do you imagine that all we need is to be told the story, like the unfolding tale of a Jack Chick comic, and we'll be on our knees praying for salvation?
Here's a clue for Christian posters hoping to win souls for Jesus:
We don't believe the Bible.
I know that's hard to fathom. To you, these are "historical documents" penned by "reliable eye-witness accounts" and championed by people who bravely went to their deaths, heads held high as they awaited their heavenly union with their lord and savior. Why would anyone not accept the story of Jesus as true?
That brings me to my next clues for Christians who hope to win souls for Jesus:
1. We don't believe the Gospels are "historical documents"
2. We don't believe they're penned by "reliable eye-witnesses"
3. We don't buy the Hollywood campy accounts, complete with a swelling background orchestra.
You need to do more than recite the story. If we believed the story, we'd already be Christians.
I mean, seriously, why do you think we're non-believers?
Do you think we just have never heard of Jesus? Do you think we don't already know what the story is? Do you imagine that all we need is to be told the story, like the unfolding tale of a Jack Chick comic, and we'll be on our knees praying for salvation?
Here's a clue for Christian posters hoping to win souls for Jesus:
We don't believe the Bible.
I know that's hard to fathom. To you, these are "historical documents" penned by "reliable eye-witness accounts" and championed by people who bravely went to their deaths, heads held high as they awaited their heavenly union with their lord and savior. Why would anyone not accept the story of Jesus as true?
That brings me to my next clues for Christians who hope to win souls for Jesus:
1. We don't believe the Gospels are "historical documents"
2. We don't believe they're penned by "reliable eye-witnesses"
3. We don't buy the Hollywood campy accounts, complete with a swelling background orchestra.
You need to do more than recite the story. If we believed the story, we'd already be Christians.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist