(April 10, 2014 at 12:21 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.
It's actually "step 3" in the cliched process that I have the most problem with.
As I understand it, the pitch often goes like this:
Quote:Step 1: Admit you are a sinner.If by "sin" you mean that I'm not perfect or have done things in my life I regret, sure.
Quote:Step 2: Be willing to turn from sin or "repent"I already believe this. I try to face my mistakes honestly and learn from them, resolving to be better in the future.
Quote:Step 3: Believe that God sent himself down to earth to become his own son so that he could make everything OK by dying on a cross as this was the only means to convince himself to forgive all of us for being the sinful beings that we are because an ancestor of ours that was made from a rib ate a magic fruit after speaking with a talking snake.You had me. You had me. You lost me.
Believe that this blood sacrifice makes all your mistakes OK because... well, that part is never explained.
Step 3: God, three persons, one God...the Father sent His Son to earth and lived a life without sin. Using God's own standard, life being in the blood, requires the shedding of blood for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus, man's representative, did what we couldn't do, live perfectly before a holy God and become a acceptable sacrifice on our behalf. The disobedience of not eating the fruit that God warned was needed because He gave us a free will. There needs to be a choice between doing right or wrong. Being obedient or disobedient. Satan, use a creature from the garden to speak to and deceive the woman.