(April 14, 2014 at 11:51 am)Crossless1 Wrote:(April 14, 2014 at 11:21 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Did you know that the book that you are dismissing has over 350 prophesies fulfilled the the life of Christ. That is no coincidence.
Oh? Do tell. Are you quite sure these are prophesies fulfilled or narratives retrofitted to the prophesies (you know, that pesky fact that the component parts of your holy book were written long after the alleged events)? And are you sure your 350 "prophesies" were really that and not passages torn out of their context to make the Christian case?
For your enlightenment and possible self-recognition, Rev, here's Nietzsche on the subject of Christian honesty with regard to scripture, from Daybreak, Book I, section 84:
"The philology of Christianity. How little Christianity educates the sense of honesty and justice can be gauged fairly well from the character of its scholars' writings: they present their conjectures as boldly as if they were dogmas and are rarely in any honest perplexity over the interpretation of a passage in the Bible. Again and again they say 'I am right, for it is written ' and then follows an interpretation of such impudent arbitrariness that a philologist who hears it is caught between rage and laughter and asks himself: is it possible? Is this honourable? Is it even decent? How much dishonesty in this matter is still practised in Protestant pulpits, how grossly the preacher exploits the advantage that no one is going to interrupt him here, how the Bible is pummelled and punched and the art of reading badly is in all due form imparted to the people: only he who never goes to church or never goes anywhere else will underestimate that. But after all, what can one expect from the effects of a religion which in the centuries of its foundation perpetrated that unheard-of philological farce concerning the Old Testament: I mean the attempt to pull the Old Testament from under the feet of the Jews with the assertion it contained nothing but Christian teaching and belonged to the Christians as the true people of Israel, the Jews being only usurpers. And then there followed a fury of interpretation and construction that cannot possibly be associated with a good conscience: however much Jewish scholars protested, the Old Testament was supposed to speak of Christ and only of Christ, and especially of his Cross; wherever a piece of wood, a rod, a ladder, a twig, a tree, a willow, a staff is mentioned, it is supposed to be a prophetic allusion to the wood of the Cross; even the erection of the one-horned beast and the brazen serpent, even Moses43 spreading his arms in prayer, even the spits on which the Passover44 lamb45 was roasted all allusions to the Cross and as it were preludes to it! Has anyone who asserted this ever believed it? Consider that the church did not shrink from enriching the text of the Septuagint46 (e.g. in Psalm 96, verse 1047) so as afterwards to employ the smuggled-in passage in the sense of Christian prophecy. For they were conducting a war and paid more heed to their opponents than to the need to stay honest."
It is common knowledge amongst Bible scholars that the text that contain the prophesies of Christ were indeed written hundreds and in many cases, over a thousand years before Christ's birth. To me this is beyond remarkable.
