(April 11, 2014 at 10:10 pm)Heywood Wrote:(April 11, 2014 at 8:44 pm)Chuck Wrote: I never said time equals matter. I said the your implication that matter is conceptually different from events because it consist of fundamental indivisible parts where as events do not is invalid.
Time is an ordering of events, events is changes through time. If events happening within a Planck time of eachother can not in principle be ordered then in principle there can be no meaningful unit of time less than a Planck time. So Planck time is the fundamental unit of time for purpose of sequencing and causality. things happening at Planck time scale is causeless in the mechanistic sense.
Let us say time consist of chronons smaller than Planck time, or even infinite number of infinitely divisible components that adds up to Planck time, so what?
They can not be used to order events to finer than Planck length, so Planck length occurrences remain causeless.
So however they appear from one Planck time to the next is part of the fundamental property of the parts involved, and not an menifestation of deeper property. They are what they are. They are statistically predictable, but mechanistic ally unpredictable at certain scale, even in principle. Ie they are truly random and unknowable individually by nature.
Just because you cannot ascertain an order of events at time intervals smaller than the planck length doesn't mean an order is not existant.
It really sounds like you are saying that on the smallest of scales....causality doesn't exist. I don't believe that is an accepted scientific view.
So is god determined or not?