RE: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
April 20, 2014 at 4:27 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2014 at 4:51 pm by Whateverist.)
(April 20, 2014 at 3:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think in finding oneself, one can find God.
True in a way so long as one does not have their expectations set too high.
As for the OP, I agree that given evidence of a god we should immediately acknowledge it and move on. However I don't agree that such a thing is entirely comprehensible.
From what I am told I guess we are to imagine a disembodied mind which is intimately aware of every thing in the universe at all times. Apparently, though undetectable as either matter or energy, this Mind is able to bring about any action it desires, and, did in some remote past bring into being every bit of matter and energy we see today. In addition to keeping track of every bit of matter and energy, this Mind is said to monitor every thought, word and deed of every individual and to respond to the prayers of some.
If this isn't the most far fetched whopper ever told I can't imagine what could top it. So while the point I conceded to the OP at the start is true in principle, it is important to point out just how remote and absurd the possibility truly is that we will ever have reason to concede the existence of god.
Metaloco Wrote:I find it much more acceptable to explain the observable universe with all its inherent order and wisdom the result of a Prime Mover's initial action rather than the atheistic posit that no such being is necessary to account for existence.
I'm not aware of any atheist manual which accounts for cosmology or metaphysics. Last time I checked, atheists were simply people who don't believe in gods. For me personally -not as an instance of an atheist who holds all the required beliefs therein- I don't recognize creator gods as an adequate explanation of origins. To my way of thinking it just kicks the can of origins further down the road. Now in addition to explaining the origins of everything we can detect you must also explain the origins of a being you can't detect but which is capable of creating everything which we can. I don't find such an explanation at all enlightening. Your typical fundamentalist cuckoo will retort that of course there is no origins to discover regarding God, that's why you call Him a prime-mover, right? But realize this is just word magic. Defining God into existence isn't really very convincing.
