(May 6, 2014 at 8:18 am)alpha male Wrote: I'm not asking you to believe anything.
Let's not engage in sophistry, you came into the thread to give an opinion, you clearly want us to consider it.
Quote:God B is pretty silly: this god manifests in reality but this god's actions do not manifest in reality. The god himself is observable in the universe, but he doesn't do anything. With god B we wouldn't expect accounts of his actions, but Christianity has that.
I think the OP kind of poorly worded his description of B, give that the characteristic listed at the end is "this god exists." I've seen this type of reasoning set out before, back then it went "god B exists, but doesn't manifest in reality," which I think is self explanatory.
Quote:No, in the case of C, we wouldn't expect accounts of his presence or actions, but Christianity has those.
Could you do me a favor and stop treating us all like we're idiots? It's really clear to see that this is begging the question, and no amount of ignoring the first part of my post where I explain why is going to change that. This line of reasoning here is truly ridiculous, to the point where I don't want to insult your intelligence by assuming that you actually believe it.
You say a god that doesn't exist wouldn't have accounts of his presence or actions, and then you proceed to live in a universe where there are countless gods that have accounts of their presence or actions, and yet you don't believe they exist. Clearly, you're not so convinced of your own logic there, and why would you be? I wouldn't want to have to accept the existence of Odin and Vishnu and Allah and every last god that has ever been depicted, either.
But don't engage in special pleading by asserting that your god exists because of those accounts, but not any of the others that have identical accounts. While you're at it, don't attempt to oversell the value of those accounts either; you're talking about miracle claims restricted to one book, that has a vested interest in having people believe those claims. Circular reasoning.
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