RE: The Million Dollar Question
May 6, 2014 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2014 at 6:05 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(May 6, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(May 6, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Nope.
I made no value judgement as the truth claims of the god(s).
Fair enough.
Quote: Merely stated a fact that every believer believes in a different version of whatever god it is they worship.
You’ve polled every believer concerning their definition of god?
No, only the ones that have told me their god is real and I should worship them/him/her/it etc.
(May 6, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Quote: It's easily testable. Like you said, ask anyone what their god 'is' and you'll get a different reply for every person you ask.
I do not believe that is the case at all; most Reformed Christians are going to define god exactly how the Westminster Confession of Faith does for example.
But like I said, faith is personal. You can share aspects of it, but many aspects can never be shared. Nobody knows the entirety of someone else's mind.
You could have the most consistent and comprehensive description of a god there is, including physical attributes (I don't know of this existing) but still people's beliefs regarding that god will differ. Every time, without fail. You even supported this in your initial response to me regarding children describing their father.
(May 6, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Quote: So when you ask if its relevant, I think it actually is the most truthful and accurate answer that can be given to the OP.
I am still not seeing the relevance. If I ask people to define a square for me, those who do not say it is a figure with four corners, right angles, and equal sides are just wrong. Their answer does not actually determine the definition. If someone tries to tell me that a god is defined as any person named Bill I am going to just come to the conclusion that they’re wrong.
I can't see how a square (with a very definite definition) is at all similar to a 'god' (whatever that is...which is the point). Besides, how do you know they're wrong in describing every Bill as a god? Maybe that's their definition or version of god? Maybe one of those Bill's is your god?
I go to you and ask if you're god is real, and you of course would answer yes. I go to any other person in time that has a different belief, be it major or minor, sect, or whatever, and ask them the same question, and I'll get the same response. As above, even in the same sect, the same family, the same household. Personal experiences differ, personal desires, wants, fears, hatreds. No two people are the same, so it stands to reason that their faith, however constructed, won't be the same either.
(May 6, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Quote: As to truth claims, well, I'll just say that tangible evidence is much better than no evidence at all.
What do you mean by tangible evidence?
Anything that is better than nothing at all?
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