(May 6, 2014 at 6:48 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Why? According to who? You? What about people, theists, who disagree with you? Does creating a universe qualify you to be a god? Why? And how do you know?
No, according to the dictionary which is where we get our definitions of terms from. Creating the Universe goes with being a supreme being, any being that did not create the Universe would itself be a contingent being and would by definition not be supreme and therefore not be a god.
Quote: You said too that there is a correct definition of a god. But I haven't seen one conducive to me reaching that conclusion. I don't think equating the definition of a square, or an integer, two very real and arguably tangible concepts, can be equated to that of a 'god', which I argue is the antithesis.
Squares and integers are abstract mathematical concepts and are not tangible at all.
Quote: I still stick with my point; a god is whatever a believer wants it to be.
Well allow me to push this point then. You claim to be an atheist; so this means you do not believe in the existence of anything at all right? Since you are asserting that a god could be defined as anything, by believing in the non-existence of all gods you’d have to therefore claim to not believe anything exists. The Earth, the Sun, you, me, dogs, cats, atoms, energy, the Universe, mosquitos, trees, and so on; you believe that none of it exists because any of it could fit the definition of a god correct?
(May 6, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Then I ask, what is supreme being.
You do not know what the word “supreme” and “being” mean or what?
(May 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So love commands me to stone gay people? Dude your fucked up.
Where does the Bible command you to stone someone for being gay?
(May 6, 2014 at 8:34 pm)Godslayer Wrote:(May 6, 2014 at 8:30 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: God is Love.
God is love...
Why would God not have the right to destroy what he has created? You skipped a few steps there.
(May 7, 2014 at 10:27 am)whateverist Wrote: So long as you're defining gods as completely relative to each individual with no independent existence apart from the subjective states of that individual we may just agree.
When you say "the true God" you appear to be speaking of what one ought to love most .. namely love itself? Put this way, God does appear to be contingent upon the subjective states of individuals. So I assume you would agree that God did not literally create the universe for us to dwell in.
Indeed the situation is exactly the opposite. God is an itinerant psychological state who exists only in he who invites him in. God has no place to offer now or later in heaven. Heaven would also be a psychological state rather than an actual place, seemingly eternal from the perspective of he who has invited God in. But actually as fleeting as every other psychological state.
I always find it so interesting that secularists will accept nearly anything as long as it’s not the Biblical God. That just strengthens my belief that it is indeed the Biblical God who exists.
