(May 7, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Creating the universe seems like a small and pitiful thing compared to a being that can supposedly do anything/everything.
I find it rather impressive myself.
Quote: What about people who define god as simply an element, such as rainfall, or sunlight.
If we considered that to be a legitimate definition for a god then you’d not be an atheist since you believe in the existence of both. I can claim that my dog is a cat but it does not make it so.
Quote: Why is your definition more worthy than theirs? I've seen nothing to sway me that you're right and they're wrong. Indeed, I've even seen rain, and felt the warmth of the sun in my skin.
It’s not my definition. It’s the dictionary’s, and that’s the entire point. It’s logically fallacious for a person to redefine terms in a self-serving manner.
Quote: Tangible.
Intangible things still have proper definitions.
Quote: Much more tangible than a personal definition of a god. I can work with the philosophical concept and results of an integer.
There’s such a thing as theology.
Quote: I have no concept or understanding of what a god is. Never have, and it's likely to stay that way.I do not completely understand what an imaginary number is, but that does not mean it does not have a proper definition or that each person is allowed to subjectively create their own definition for it. 1 is not an imaginary number, the square root of -1 is. Anyone who says the opposite is simply wrong.
Quote: No.
I'm not saying a god can't be defined as anything. Quite the opposite. I'm saying a god can, and indeed is described as everything. It depends entirely on the believer.
That’s my point; so as an atheist you do not believe that anything actually exists? Since everything can be defined as a god and you do not believe in the existence of any gods you therefore do not believe that any one thing exists right?
P. Gods do not exist
P2. Everything is a god
C. Therefore, everything does not exist.
Quote: There is no such thing as a universally defined god.
Sure there is, I already gave you the definition for the term.
Quote: And you're also wrong. I believe that lots of things exist as an atheist. I've just never been convinced that a 'god' (whatever that is) is one of those things.
You said that the definition of the term “god” is determined by those who believe in it, so if you believe cats exist and as long as one person believes cats are gods according to your reasoning you would now be a theist and not an atheist.
Quote: Atheism = lack of belief in a deity. I've been an atheist since the second I was born. I don't believe in the non-existance of all gods. That doesn't make any sense. I don't even know what 'all gods' there are.
Well that’s not the actual definition of the term atheism, but I will play along.
How do you know you lack a belief in a deity if you do not know what a deity is? Perhaps it’s a cat? You believe in cats don’t you? You see my point?
