(May 9, 2014 at 6:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(May 8, 2014 at 11:36 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: You inserted the assertion "everything else is created". You have also assumed that the universe has a beginning. So, already, your conclusion is unwarranted.No beginning to the Universe? Are you championing Steady State Theory from the 1920s now?
Observable Universe, and by that I mean MATTER in motion which we CAN observe indeed had a beginning, in terms of our own logic that is (where concept of time is fundamental, without it we would not be able to comprehend anything at all).
Steady State Theory defends notion that MATTER in the Universe is eternal.
If the Universe is absolutely everything that can possibly be, was and is, than great beyond which OUR (and all other possible ones) universe(s) arose from could very well be eternal and that in itself is a steady state, on a quantum level (eternal foam, lol) of course