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Organic food?
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RE: Organic food?
Actually we do have some idea of how long they persist, relative to synthetics. A requirement for OMRI or organic certification is that the pesticide exist in an "unprocessed" or "minimally processed" state. By nature of this arrangement they are much more stable than a synthetic intentionally designed to be unstable in the environment. Add to that the impurities that nature uses as as binding agents for this stuff and you can watch, for example, bt wash off the plants and puddle all around the production area - whereas the synthetics which handle the same issue literally dissolve into their constituent components - often inert when uncombined, again, by design.

Long story short, nature doesn't have any "good ideas" relative to pest control or fertility, it lacks the capability in a fundamental way. It has ideas that work, some of the time - damn the consequences.

( a minor, but to me major nitpick - nothing can be "grown without chemicals" regardless of who ones grower might be and how well they know him/her. Plants are nothing -if not- chemical powerhouses. They make us look like rank amateurs. They're busily engaged in a chemical campaign the likes of which we could not possibly hope to match. The sorts of abuse, the chemo-bio wasteland envisioned by a certain subset as a possible outcome of mans involvement here is actually realized within the metabolisms of the plants themselves. If one chooses to concieve of our own actions in this regard as an attempt to "destroy the earth" then one has to accept the reality that plants have already "destroyed it" for us. We needn't lift a finger, and could possibly do alot to minimize the damage they are incapable of -not causing- by virtue of their biological limitations.)
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Organic food? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 22, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Foxaèr - May 22, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 22, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Foxaèr - May 22, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Jackalope - May 23, 2014 at 1:01 am
RE: Organic food? - by Sejanus - May 23, 2014 at 1:27 am
RE: Organic food? - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2014 at 2:49 am
RE: Organic food? - by Natachan - July 7, 2014 at 2:33 pm
RE: Organic food? - by zebo-the-fat - July 7, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Zen Badger - July 8, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 7, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Mystical - July 8, 2014 at 7:45 am
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Clueless Morgan - July 7, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Natachan - July 7, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Natachan - July 8, 2014 at 6:54 am
RE: Organic food? - by Bibliofagus - July 8, 2014 at 7:28 am
RE: Organic food? - by Mystical - July 8, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Organic food? - by Bibliofagus - July 8, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: Organic food? - by Mystical - July 8, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: Organic food? - by Bibliofagus - July 8, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 8, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Clueless Morgan - July 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 8, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 9, 2014 at 2:52 am
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 9, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Organic food? - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 9, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 9, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Organic food? - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 9, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 9, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 8, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Jackalope - July 8, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Jackalope - July 8, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Lemonvariable72 - July 12, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Organic food? - by JesusHMuhammad - July 8, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Jackalope - July 8, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Jackalope - July 8, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 8:02 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Organic food? - by ShaMan - July 8, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Organic food? - by Losty - July 8, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Organic food? - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm



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