(June 5, 2014 at 9:45 pm)mickiel Wrote: And the church was its mother. A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.I think it's more interesting to consider that a methodology born of the church and practiced by men of god (who --at least some of the time-- were under pressure to make sure their findings corroborated church teachings) wound up never finding god and leading humanity towards natural alternatives. It seems the church unwittingly birthed the movement that would eventually destroy it.
There's got to be a cool sci-fi flick somewhere in there.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
