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So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
(July 1, 2014 at 8:17 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(June 30, 2014 at 9:04 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Right wing in the US is not the same as right wing in the rest of the world. Where I live democrats are considered conservatives

They're largely considered conservative here, too. Unfortunately, our system is rigged so as to only accept two parties, so liberals hold their noses and vote Democrat as the alternative is unthinkable.

For the last 25 years, the situation has gotten progressively worse as both parties have shifted to the right. The GOP, trying to fire up its base, runs further and further to the right wing each year and the Democrats chase after them, trying to capture "the center". The theory is that liberals have no where else to go and so are a captive voting block and being "Republican-Lite" is a way to gain support among moderate or "swing" voters. President Clinton perfected this strategy and made it work for him.

The problem is that as the parties shift further right, what becomes "the center"and what becomes "radical" moves accordingly. W Bush, once considered conservative, now appears moderate and Ronald Reagan would be left wing.

What's funny is that members of the GOP seem to have no memory of anything that happened more than a year ago and act as if they're completely unaware of this shift. They really do think Obama is a "socialist" even though he's not even a liberal, by the measure of what liberals in America want. On Obamacare, for example, liberals wanted Medicare-for-all while Obamacare is like the GOP's proposed system in the 90s.

Fed up with this rightward shift in 2010, many disgusted liberals stayed home to punish the Democrats. It didn't work. So we're kind of damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we stay home or vote 3rd party on election night, Republicans win and Democrats conclude they were "too liberal" and they shift to the right. If we hold our noses and vote Democrat, they continue to think they can take us for granted and throw us under the bus once they win the elections and shift to the right.

If anything is going to save us, its that the GOP is tilting so far to the right that they're on the verge of complete meltdown. Much of their party has already moved into Crazytown where they're completely divorced from reality. The result of this insanity was our flirtation in 2013 with intentional default on our financial obligations and the near destruction of the world economy. Hopefully, the GOP will be producing candidates that are completely unelectable except in to looniest of districts. When the GOP implodes, perhaps the Democrats can split into a liberal and conservative party to restore the balance once again.

You must need to be really faithful to be an american conservative of the republican type.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Minimalist - June 30, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - June 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - June 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Angrboda - June 30, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by dreenbmp - June 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - July 1, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jackalope - June 30, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Cato - July 1, 2014 at 8:11 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 3:23 pm
So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Rampant.A.I. - July 1, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - July 1, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 7, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm

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