Evolution V Creation

[chatpilot]

A fair intellectual starting point for me would be what I know as facts through what I observe in the world around me. For example, I am sure that infirmity in general is not the product of demons attacking mankind for his sinful ways, but rather the very natural act of microbes, viruses, and of course our own in some instances weak immune systems. Some diseases are genetic some are hereditary etc. etc. These are known facts that have been proven by science and observed by professionals in the fields of modern medicine.

I don't know if you have noticed rjh4 that I don't get too involved with philosophical discussions about god even though I am familiar with the subject matter. The reason for my reluctance is that I feel that philosophy just complicates an already complicated matter even further. People get caught up with labels and definitions of this and that and all they achieve is taking the various discussions to the point of absurdity. I like to be practical and down to earth, I don't have time to get caught up in the so called attributes of god when in my opinion if there were a god no one can know those attributes.

My main contention is that most theists like to argue that science is an invention of man, but it is a systematic way to understand the world around us based on observation and reason. Faith is also an invention of man as well, but unlike scientific principles it is based on nothing more than what someone said in a book claiming to be of divine origin.