(November 9, 2018 at 11:13 am)Shell B Wrote: You're mistaking my point, probably because I didn't make it well. It's not that I hold them personally responsible for the behavior of members of their "team," it's that I find it ridiculous that they'll paint this entire website as hostile to theists based on a few members while ignoring that there are also hostile theists that rile the handful or so of actually hostile atheists here. They ignore the atheists that actually give their far-fetched discussions careful time and consideration while painting themselves as a completely blameless group in this continued bickering. There are as many awful theists here as there are rude atheists.
For the record, I'm not justifying "my" behavior or anyone's based on theirs. I'd be surprised if you can find a thread where I tear into theists that is about religion. I mainly get into it about specific political topics. I'm simply pointing out hypocrisy. I never once said "It's okay that people call them fucking morons without engaging them since they have assholes too." My point is that I find it stupid that their excuse for leaving is the meanies while they ignore the very meanies that left with them.
Also for the record, I'm pretty sure C_L leaving (if she has) has nothing to do with your behavior. She always struck me as fond of both you and the Tibster. She only mentioned the repetiveness and the inability to have a discussion where anyone risks anything because they are immediately put on the defensive. And to be fair I was the one who brought it up in discussing my own ambivalence about that aspect of this place. I don't think we're any worse than the population as a whole, and I definitely prefer us to self righteous religious schmucks who think they're on the good side even as they act like complete alpha-males assholes.