RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2015 at 4:31 pm by Drich.)
(June 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Nuuupe. It's an interesting idea-putting the burden of proof on god himself-but within the constraints of logic, the person making the positive claim is the one with the burden of proof. It's just how it works.Do you remember the first time you used a GPS or a turn by turn service? Where was the 'proof' in that your garmin or tomtom worked? was it in the person making the claim, or was it in the following of said device to your first destination? "Proof" can work both ways but as you can plainly see is not limited to the person making the positive claim. Proof can also be found in the successful execution of said claim.
Quote:OTOH we have theits saying that you need to seek god to find evidence for him-as he 'reveals he truth' to you-and when you mention you have sought it, you are just told you didn't seek hard enough.If God says the only way to find me is for the seeker to "A,B,C" do you think God can be found any other way? Until you follow your first turn by turn navigation trip, you only have the word of others that the turn by turn navigation works. The same is true with God. Until you do what He says do, the only confirmation you will get of God is through those who have "used the GPS" in the bible and found Him.
You are trying to put philosophical constraints on a principle that they do not fit on. There are many things in this world that we must experience for ourselves before we have 'proof' they exist.
Quote:The word 'morality' has little to no meaning at all. It tries to describe a bunch of vague ideas, but on its own has no substance. I would argue that moral codes within societies are not so much 'designed' and rather that they evolve on their own over time....I do not disagree. Matter of fact that's kinda what I said minus the fact that many of you will point out that God had babies killed, and glance over the fact that we 'man' since 1980 have killed a billion plus.. Let say God had 10,000 or even 100,000 babies killed, or lets say a million babies were put to death by God... That doesn't even touch the 17 million killed this year by 'civilized' man.
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
Yet because the Jews sang a song about smashing their captors babies against the rocks... God is a monster. Yep no hypocrisy their.
Quote:This 'science is same as faith' thing is so tired and bullshit....Not what I was saying sport. I was saying 'Science' is your god.
(June 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:(June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
good, good. now replace 'god' with 'evolution'
You are aware that a THEROY is not PROOF, right?