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Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
(June 5, 2015 at 11:59 am)Drich Wrote:
(June 5, 2015 at 9:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah, I can, we'd end up with the world we live in, where you have to unequivocally establish that you're married before claiming the benefits afforded thereto, nitwit.  
your joking right? or can you not phathom what was said?

If we all waited to get married and have kids, till we had 'proof' (the same level of 'proof' your looking for God) that your marriage would indeed go the distance and their would be no conflicts, the human race would cease to exist. In fact we have absolutely no issue steping out on a little faith and A/S/K when it suits us to do so. You people only pretend to not have faith when it threatens the way you think you want to live your life.


 

There's a difference between blind faith and 'faith' that's built upon actual experience and probability.  You (should) know this, and you're (likely) intentionally conflating the two.

People usually, you know, take the time to know each other first before getting married.  Not all the time, to be sure, and perhaps they're not honest during the courtship phase, or maybe there are warning signs, but one person in the couple thinks they can 'fix' the other, but generally, there's a fair amount of time spent in the presence of the other person.  Enough time so each person in the couple can learn to predict what future choices might result in based on past interactions.  It's not 100% fool proof.  People are always unpredictable to a certain extent, but it's built on pattern recognition and the probability of a resultant behavior based on each pattern.

And, really, that's the basis for all human interaction.  We know that each person has a brain and (usually) a shared culture with us.  The more time we spend around one another, the more we can predict (and manipulate) the behavior of others.  I know how my family will react to certain things.  How my friends will react to certain things.  There's no static source of information, like a book, which informs me of this, but rather a continuing cycle of cause and react which either reinforces the knowledge gathered in previous cycles, or something new and unexpected which is added to the possible consequences for a sequence of events.

Not coincidentally (but anecdotally), the people in my life who have been happily married for years are those people that spent a long time in the courtship phase, to the point where they were essentially married without holding the certificate.  

It's not at all like the faith you're describing.  It's not blind acceptance and hope.  It's a faith built on actual interactions with a separate being that actually exists.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 2, 2015 at 6:45 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by ignoramus - June 2, 2015 at 6:50 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by dyresand - June 2, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by dyresand - June 2, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 2, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by AFTT47 - June 2, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 2, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by emjay - June 2, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 3, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 4, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Esquilax - June 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by LastPoet - June 2, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 2, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 3, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Dystopia - June 2, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 2, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 3, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:53 pm
Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KUSA - June 2, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 3, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Esquilax - June 4, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by ignoramus - June 4, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 4, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 5, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 7, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 5, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:22 am
Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KUSA - June 5, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 6, 2015 at 6:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 9:00 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Crossless1 - June 7, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 14, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 14, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 16, 2015 at 6:55 am

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