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Does human life have INHERENT value?
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
(June 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(June 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You and I agree, I just didn't need a god to get me there.  If you stopped believing in god would you change your mind about that value?
(btw, the value you've described isn't inherent, it's assigned.....by god.  Had god assigned that value to mushrooms, created them with value you reserve for human beings........  You see, it's nothing about us, not inherent to us..in your description...it's about god, and what god did.)

If I stopped believing in God, I would not change my mind about human life having inherent value because it is so engrained into me.

But I would have a hard time justifying my claim that it does.

(I'm not sure what you mean. Yes, God did create us with value... but it's still about us because He made us that way. So we are that way.)
Would we have this "inherent value" if god had not created us, or had not created us the way he did?  Look, if you can justify it -with god- but not -without god-........you're going to need to drop the inherent song and dance, it would no longer be a sensible claim. In your description..it does not arise from us...but rather -from what we have been given by another-.

It's a bit like claiming that a birthday present was -inherent- to you because it was currently in your possession.
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Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Chad32 - June 21, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Chad32 - June 21, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Minimalist - June 21, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Jenny A - June 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by paulpablo - June 21, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by ignoramus - June 21, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Pyrrho - June 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Alex K - June 21, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Pyrrho - June 21, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Alex K - June 21, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by abaris - June 22, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Chas - June 22, 2015 at 9:43 am
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Longhorn - June 28, 2015 at 3:30 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Brakeman - June 27, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Bob Kelso - June 28, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Longhorn - June 28, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Esquilax - June 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by abaris - June 30, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Brakeman - June 30, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Brakeman - June 30, 2015 at 7:56 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by abaris - June 30, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by IATIA - June 28, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by IATIA - June 29, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Spooky - June 29, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 8:58 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 9:52 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by JuliaL - June 21, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by ignoramus - June 21, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Bob Kelso - June 21, 2015 at 11:16 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by robvalue - June 22, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Cato - June 22, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Nope - June 22, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Pyrrho - June 22, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Esquilax - June 22, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by robvalue - June 22, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Dystopia - June 22, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by abaris - June 22, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by robvalue - June 22, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Cephus - June 22, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Jenny A - June 23, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by ignoramus - June 22, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by comet - June 27, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Easy Guns - June 27, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by IATIA - June 27, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by brewer - June 28, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Spooky - June 28, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by IATIA - June 30, 2015 at 10:11 pm

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