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How to debunk the first cause argument without trying too hard
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RE: How to debunk the first cause argument without trying too hard
If we include sun, earth, etc, as part of the universe, we know that these things in the universe all began to exist. If similarly, the universe is in a state of constant change, none of it's states didn't begin to exist. All of it states began to exist, then how can than whole it said to not began to exist. And how can it be said "any" of it didn't begin to exist, when we clearly acknowledge the opposite. This shows things subject to change all began to exist.

The logical conclusion is a changeless existence started the changing existence. This is because we know things with change all began to exist. And we know things could not have began from nothing. Therefore this is a sound conclusion.

It needing will and magical power is obvious, just as it's obvious right now, a single atom or dollar or gum cannot be causing our spirits to exist or the universe to exist, the same is true of a immaterial lifeless being causing time and change and things subject to change to come into being.
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RE: How to debunk the first cause argument without trying too hard - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 12:19 pm

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