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Gnostics?
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RE: Gnostics?
(August 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: There is no god.  I know there is no god.  Is that good enough for you?  If you want that explained, it will take a bit, but if you have read all of my posts, you will already have all you need on that.

Here is an old post on this:

(July 28, 2015 at 9:29 am)Pyrrho Wrote: What do you mean by "god?"  Do you mean anything that anyone might call a god?  If so, when someone says, "Brad Pitt is a god," my guess is that not only will you not deny the existence of Brad Pitt, but you probably positively believe he exists.

As for your title question, very often "God" (capitalized) is used for a narrower range of options than "god" (not capitalized); notice the distinction separating definitions 1 & 2:


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all


I am confident that nothing exists that fits 1 or 2.  There are no gods in those senses of the word.  I am not agnostic about those.

In the case of 2.1, obviously, there are statues said to be gods, and 3, 3.1, and 4 obviously exist.  In the case of 2.2, I don't believe in fate, as typically understood, but it depends exactly on how one uses the term whether I would say that it is or is not possible.


In the context of this site, normally, definitions 1 & 2 are the only relevant ones.  And of them, I am confident that none exist.  Still, the exact degree of confidence varies, as I am certain that nothing exists whose proper description is self-contradictory, which eliminates the Christian God, as typically described.  The nonexistence of Zeus is less certain, as his description is not obviously self-contradictory.  But I am still practically certain that he does not exist.  If his home on Mount Olympus were found with his wine cup on his table, then it would be more reasonable to believe in him.  However, since lightning is understood (by some people, anyway), it can be known that Zeus is not the source of it, so his description is problematic and we can say very confidently that there is no Zeus as described, even if he were found on top of Mount Olympus.


When it comes to these sorts of things, when some people demand absolute certainty about God, and insist that otherwise one should be called an "agnostic," my reply is that the same standards should apply for God as anything else.  Are you an agnostic about leprechauns?  The tooth fairy?  Fairies living at the bottom of a well?  Whatever degree of certainty that is good enough to say, "no leprechauns exist," is good enough to say "no gods exist."
But no one "knows" there are no leprechauns. Knowing is a VERY strong word to use. I am agnostic to almost everything. I threw in the almost, because I know I don't know.
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Gnostics? - by Shuffle - August 30, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Longhorn - August 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Exian - August 30, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Shuffle - August 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Shuffle - August 30, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Shuffle - August 30, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 5, 2015 at 12:36 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Shuffle - September 5, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Redbeard The Pink - September 5, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Exian - August 30, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by Shuffle - August 30, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Gnostics? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 3:12 am
RE: Gnostics? - by ignoramus - August 31, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Gnostics? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 8:00 am
RE: Gnostics? - by comet - August 31, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Redbeard The Pink - September 5, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: Gnostics? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 2:55 am
RE: Gnostics? - by ignoramus - September 5, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: Gnostics? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: Gnostics? - by ignoramus - September 5, 2015 at 3:26 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Redbeard The Pink - September 5, 2015 at 3:49 am
RE: Gnostics? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Gnostics? - by Hisham Hasan - September 5, 2015 at 6:37 pm



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