BEASTIALITY

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Man licks goat pussy - no consent from goat = baaaaaaad

Man kills and eats goat - no consent from goat = good

This is my issue with every singe bodily harm and consent argument.

And the person who said the MAJORITY of bodily invasions we perform on animals are helpful to them, like taking them to the vet, just no. Incorrect The vast majority of animals that humans own are mistreated quite badly, and then killed without any thought for their desires or comforts.

Like Pets.  Yes, we love our pets.  I own 2 cats and they are like family to me. I would never knowingly harm them.  However...perhaps I am unknowingly harming them.

According to the ASPCA

Approximately 7.6 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year. Of those, approximately 3.9 million are dogs and 3.4 million are cats. Each year, approximately 2.7 million animals are euthanized (1.2 million dogs and 1.4 million cats)

And the vast majority of those animals are healthy, adoptable animals.  They aren't even EATEN.  We just murder them because we don't want them, and then turn them into mulch, or pet food for the survivors, or at best they are cremated.  I had a pet put down 2 years ago (he was dying of liver failure, but still), and it is NOT PEACEFUL.  They are terrified.  He pulled the needle out once it was in.  The nurse had to stick him 7 times!!!! before she got it in again...and then he convulsed for a good 30 seconds, trying to breath.  IT was AWEFUL.  And humans do this to healthy pets!!!!  

This does not even touch on the issue of how we treat our food animals.  Talk about ick.

But if there is sex involved, then suddenly it is immoral?  It's hypocritial. 

If you contribute to the puppy mill industry, or don't fix your pets, you are doing them much worse harm than some horny guy who likes furries, IMO.  If you are for animal rights, that is great, but then you need to be consistent.

Personally, this has become a bigger and bigger issue as I get older.  My family has stopped eating mammals, but we still eat fish and fowl (only wild caught or raised on free range farms), but I'm starting to feel even that is wrong.  I already volunteer at a local no-kill shelter, and help them pick up strays to get them fixed. 

But honestly, since animals cannot give consent for anything we do to them, AND anything we do to them could be causing some kind of suffering, doing anything at all to an animal could be immoral.  The very act of having a pet....have you never looked into your pets eyes and wondered if it isn't suffering some kind of Stockholm syndrome?  WE tell our pets what they can eat, where they can sleep or be in the house, and we never give them autonomy to CHOOSE freedom.  Not that I'm withPita and think we should let all the pets go, I'm just saying, it's hypocritical to say bestiality is immoral if you even OWN a pet.

~waits to be ponced on by almost everyone~

^^This is why my wife and I own a rescue.  We pull from kill shelters all the time and have a network of foster homes to get these guys adopted out to loving homes.  We've had boxes of kittens dropped off on our porch, picked up dogs that have been left tied to handicap signs at walmart parking lots, and every other weekend we go to downtown Detroit to pass out essentials bags to homeless people and bring dog food to feed the feral strays.