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refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
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RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
(May 30, 2010 at 7:57 pm)Scented Nectar Wrote:
(May 30, 2010 at 7:24 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: hitting her slightly with something like a toothbrush as a warning before divorce after a year of trying to change something which is ruining the family and its not preferable to do so and muhammed (pbuh) himself never did that(u r making a big deal of this)
What is the punishment a man gets from his wife when he is lewd or flirting?
no punishment for that but if caught having sex its divorce and she dont have any financial rights except what she already own
Quote:The "it's not islam it is the culture that is wrong" argument seems great, in theory only. Because it acknowledges that the teachings of the Qur'an and primitive misogynistic cultures are not incompatible.
If the Qur'an clearly condemned the abuses we see nowadays in the countries applying the sharia law, then no islamic country would ever condone these things. But the reality is different: the sharia is an explicitly islamic set of laws which comes from a certain (and common) interpretation of the Qur'an and the hadiths.
what i meant is that in some cultures they just look like that it have nothing to do wether they are a muslim or not. and about applying the sharia u get a ppl with agrissive culture and say those r the ones applying sharia but in fact they r doing a lot of things together sharia,culture,opression,......if u want to know wat they r doing is islamic or not see some of the verses i posted in the begining and compare it with wat they r doing so u can know where their acts came from and plz if u met anyone like that say to him only one verse of what i said he will either punch u or he will be silent dont think he will start giving u interpretations they just do wat they hear or wat they saw their fathers do

Quote:Moataz, tell me how do you know which interpretation of the Qur'an is the correct one ? How do you know which hadiths are divinely inspired ? Which scholars should I trust ? The salafi scholars ? The shi'a scholars ? The ahmadiyya scholars ? Trusting the most popular interpretation or the interpretation of the highest scholar cannot give you the truth.
ok shias,ahmedyaa or any of these islamic group have the same beliefs and the same Quran and not different interpretations of the Quran as u think but they have some acts and beliefs according to the history(not major most are about the compnions)and also some of them start following some scholars blindly and start creating new ways of prayer and staff like that and at last they are minority
about the interpretation of the Quran anyone can come and say and interpretation u should believe him?
use ur mind read what his interpretation is based on and the meaning of the words and reason and use logic(thats the way the interpretation of the companions is dont think that they write a verse and then say an order its a science and if u just know the basics u can make an opinion urself wether these interpretation is right or just helusinations)
its not the subject but u mentioned these several times so i wanted to clarify
Quote:This is an atheist forum. That means we don't believe in god(s). Follow me so far?

Not believing in god(a) means we don't believe in revealed truth. A non existent being cannot write or inspire anything.That includes the Qur'an and the Hadith. The Qur'an has no authority here. You may not use it as evidence to support any argument if you wish to be taken seriously
Your assumption that your interpretation of Islam is right and we are all wrong is arrogant,ignorant and insulting.
at first am not proving anything am just telling u the truth about islam so ur beliefs can be based on something other than misconceptons.when using the Quran verses am just proving that this is what Islam says u not believing in it doesnt make any difference it will still says wat muslims do or wat they should do
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RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by bozo - May 29, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by ARMS - May 31, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by mo3taz3nbar - May 31, 2010 at 3:46 am
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by ARMS - June 2, 2010 at 5:29 pm
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by ARMS - June 3, 2010 at 7:05 am
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by Violet - June 12, 2010 at 12:53 am
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by Dotard - June 14, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by Dotard - June 17, 2010 at 12:46 am
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by annatar - June 22, 2010 at 12:40 pm
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by annatar - June 23, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam - by Dotard - June 23, 2010 at 11:17 pm

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