(January 15, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(January 15, 2016 at 2:58 pm)athrock Wrote: So, you're a liar for atheism. And not just a liar and not just an atheist, but an anti-theist. Got it. Now we understand each other.
You made an interesting comment (highlighted above), and I'd like to explore this for a moment.
You say you're anti-theist REGARDLESS of the truth of the Exodus account. My understanding of this statement is that EVEN IF the Exodus account were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to have actually occurred just as the Bible records it, you would still be against theism. IOW, the truth of the Bible would make no difference, you would still be opposed to any belief in God whatsoever.
Even if God does exist and you were certain of this beyond a shadow of a doubt, you would still be "anti" or against belief in him?
Do I understand you correctly?
And no, you have not substantiated your claim that I am a liar.
Me thinks you do not know the definition of anti-theism.
Even if the Bible were completely true, and the god depicted in the stories, actually existed, Rhytm (and I) would still be an anti-theist.
Accepting that the Bible god existed, and the Bible stories are true, does not automatically mean that a former atheist would worship said god, or believe that religion is a good thing.
Quite the opposite. One of the worst possibilities I could think of, would be if the psychopathic, genocidal, slavery condoning, eternal punishment for finite crime, Bible god actually existed.
Actually, what you have written is a very acceptable definition of anti-theism.
So, the situation appears to be something like this:
We don't think that God exists; in fact, we're pretty sure he doesn't though we can't actually prove that, of course. But even if he did, we wouldn't want to obey, serve, worship, love or follow him because we believe him to be unworthy of those things.
Unfortunately, that's not much of a justification for being an atheist (much less and anti-theist) because there are plenty of options/reason for being theists without referencing the Judeo-Christian scriptures at all.
So, your anti-theism seems a bit myopic, IMO.