RE: Women's clothes?
January 17, 2016 at 3:43 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2016 at 3:55 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: Here's the two things I find in your posts that I know are wrong:
1. The reason for men to get aroused when they see a sexy chick is because it is how men are programmed by evolution, not society,[...]
Wrong. It's both - evolution AND society. Especially when it comes to the standards of what is perceived as "sexy" and "explicit".
And anyway most of us have an astonishing level of control over keeping our arousal to ourselves. Those who can't are not very well adapted to living in modern society. You see, sometimes - often - women are scantily clad because it's practical - like while working out or at the beach, or because it's a warm day - not to give you an imaginary lap-dance.
(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: [...]Why should the sexuality of a heterosexual man that is supposedly objectifying a women by looking at her when she is explicitly dressed sexy be suppressed? [...]
It makes people uncomfortable. There's nothing "social engineeringly" about not wanting to be around people, who make us uncomfortable - it's natural. Some people - like the ones with certain mental disorders - can't help it and it makes their lives more difficult and isolated. But most of us cope just fine. Would you feel comfortable, if every stranger stared shamelessly at your girlfriend?
And what you call "explicitly dressed sexy" is just your subjective idea, dictated by your society. To a muslim man a woman who's eyebrows are showing seems like a prick-teasing whore.
You want to look, do it. Just do it like you would at a person you respect. Not a piece of candy, that you hope, if you stare at it long enough - will fly into your mouth. Because that's probably your main problem with the whole thing - many men stare at women hoping to find that 1 in a 100 (although the number will depend on circumstances, like amount of booze around), that will stare back and subsequently put out. That's a very feeble strategy. Try talking to women instead.
(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: What harm does this do to society so much that the sexuality of a heterosexual man has to suppressed and if possible social engineeringly altered to fit how a women or people that are opposed to this idea wants to fit?
It promotes the idea, that men are mindless animals, with little self-control, who are meant to use their dicks as a compass and there's nothing that can be done about it. Which is just bullsh*t and an excuse to act like a macho pr*ck, with no concern for others.
Would you openly stare at the shapely tits of a grieving widow, at a funeral? No? Why not? What could possibly be wrong about it, if unashamedly treating people as wank-bank material is fine and even - you could say - complimentary? It's probably her fault for looking good in black and she should be happy and flattered, that there are other men around willing to f*ck her, now that her husband kicked it, right? Or perhaps your evolution "taught" you not to notice tits in inappropriate situations?
How do you know what is the emotional state of a stranger you are eye-f*cking? How do you know she's not a lesbian, or hasn't been recently raped by some creep, who stared at her beforehand? I can imagine to you feeling aroused is more important than the feelings of people you are potentially making uncomfortable - but living in a civilized society means that sometimes we have to stop ourselves from things that seem normal to us.
Masturbating in public theoretically doesn't hurt anyone, but would you really want to live in a society, where whacking it in the street was accepted? Yeah - I didn't think so. And that's just a different level of suppressing our natural ape-ish sexuality. And if that doesn't kill us - we can probably survive, while trying not to be blatantly obvious about our willingness to f*ck some stranger.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw